Meet Dr. Jeannine Payne, the principal of the Julia R. Masterman Laboratory and Demonstration School. Dr. Payne has been working for the School District of Philadelphia since 1999. She is also a senior fellow of the Philadelphia Academy of School Leaders Neubauer Fellowship and a Lindback Award recipient. In this interview, Dr. Payne discusses the steps toward ensuring the long-term success of students, which begins with acknowledging that education is not working for all students and then reflecting on the reasons why.